100% guaranteed way to find out whether Jesus is real or not

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  1. Lucian Hodoboc

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    Reverend Howard Storm provides us with a 100% guaranteed way to find out whether Jesus is real or not. Watch the following video to find out how:



    (ignore the subtitles)
     
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    Lol, so basically Jesus is real if you brainwashed yourself into believing he is real.
     
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    Without time travel, there’s no way to prove it. Of course, were we to find time travel means the church would try to stop it because it would be blasphemy to them - clearly because we’d go back and find out it’s all lies
     
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    Just like you brainwash yourself into thinking that what you've been told about science is real. That evolution is how different species came about. That Relativity is how the universe works. If mean, did you go and investigate it for yourself? And in order to do so, you would need the time, resources and expertise to do so and not that many people have all three, so you just have to take others' word for it, just like religion followers take the word of religious leaders
     
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    Scientists have data to back up their claims. Religious leaders have nothing more than the bible.
     
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    Religious leaders have data to back up their claims -- The Bible, The Koran, and other words of authority.
     
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    Hahahaha.

    So they quote an old book written by man.
    Now if I'm not mistaken, man is fallible, yes? Yes. Therefore, at best, the bible is nothing more than a compilation of short stories.
     
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    Hahaha

    So, you take the word of people called scientists? You have faith that what they are telling you are true because nobody has the expertise to investigate all of the claims themselves.
     
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    Multiple resources vs. One old book .....
     
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    That's a mischaracterization of it. The source is the Bible for Christians, which can be seen as flawed. The source for scientists is perception. Both use rationalism and what others tell them.
     
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    Perception can be seen as flawed, too.
     
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    ^ Those two things are what I'm saying.

    Again, I reiterate, your observations can be flawed just like the Bible can be flawed.
     
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    I already made a thread about this. You just demonstrated scientific reasoning and religious reasoning. :)
     
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    You win. The bible is real, and science is fake. :rolleyes:
     
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    You deliberately don't want to understand what I'm saying. Why is that, lol? :)
     
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    And if you want to put it another way, I'm practicing skepticism. I'm skeptical about the Bible being factual and about one's observations being factual.
     
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    Except they can demonstrate scientific theory and reproduce results. They have evidence of everything

    Science isn’t telling you what’s real, it’s the process of trying to disprove ideas and theories - things that have been promoted to “scientific theory” are the things that have held up under intense scrutiny and failed attempts to disprove them.

    Unfortunately most of what’s in the bible can’t be proven to be true, some of it can be disproven, but none of it is substantiated
     
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    @Squire72 I'm talking what you take as the source of how you prove something or disprove something. That thing is observation which can be seen as flawed, just like the Bible can be seen as flawed. I think that you take observation as a given as much as Christians take the Bible as a given because you don't seem to question it, which is what the topic is about. :)
     

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