100% guaranteed way to find out whether Jesus is real or not

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  1. mcpon14

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    The evidence is that scientists use their observations or their data or the research that others have done as a starting point and they build upon what others have done.
     
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    How are you going to conduct a scientific experiment, unless you take certain things as being true?
     
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    If you can't rely on what you are using to conduct the experiment, including your instruments and data and previous research that you are using, then you cannot even begin the experiment.
     
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    I'm not saying scientific theories or laws are taken as being true. I'm saying that the things that they use to conduct research are things that they take as being true.
     
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    Doesn't mean the observations and data are true.
    What bizarre logic you have.

    And it's becoming even more bizarre now.
    Why can't you conduct any scientific experiment without taking anything as "true"?
    We can based our experiment on testable assumptions.
    But these are not "true".
     
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    Okay. Maybe not observations and data but sense perception is true. That what you are sensing is telling you the truth.
     
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    What the?
    Why is your sense of perception equals truth?
    I don't understand you at all.
     
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    Because you take it that your sense perception is not lying to you. When you see a purple liquid in a test tube, you jot it down as such.
     
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    But we do know that our sense perception is lying to us all the time.
    I'm sorry, I just don't understand what you're talking about.
    If you believe that sense perception equals truth then you're talking about religion, not science. There is no "truth" in science.
     
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    Reading your dumbass posts give me a headache. If you could provide real facts and information, I would be happy to entertain your crazy notions, but you don't. You've mastered double speaking, and I haven't the time, energy, or interest to bother with you.
     
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    Okay, fine. There is no truth in science because everything is falsifiable, then what is the pursuit of science, then, if nothing can be determined to be true? God is unknowable and science shows us the frailty in trying to know him because everything is falsifiable, therefore we cannot get at the truth. We cannot get at knowing what God is, so we take what we can get from Him and just have faith that what He is telling us is the truth because there is no way to find out.
     
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    **** you and **** off. I already know that you are close-minded. You didn't need to remind me that you are close-minded.
     
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    Like I said.
     
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    @867k See, tool is not close-minded like you. That's why I enjoy talking to him.
     
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    To formulate a working model of the universe that is consistent with all the evidences we acquired.

    And just out of nowhere, you assumed god exist but there is no way for us to test this claim.
     
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    "I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you."
     
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    What do you mean out of nowhere? Your whole argument revolves around countering our (Christians) argument that we assume God exists and that there is no way to test this claim, ya goof.
     
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    Explain to me why do you think god exist?
     
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    Because there is no way to know, so I'll just assume that He does. I don't want to find out that He does and end up going to Hell because I didn't assume it and all that that entails.
     
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    Pascal's wager.
    How do you even know you're worshiping the right god?
    The islamic god will send you to hell for believing that Jesus is god.
     
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