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Tool, you just blurt things out without understanding anything. That's how I feel about you.
Yes, I know that science deals with only falsifiable claims and the religious propositions are unfalsifiable. That shows that religious propositions don't work under the scientific framework. But guess what? Scientific propositions of nowadays don't work under the religious framework. What I'm showing you is how science is reaching towards proving that the Christian God exists because the Christian God is unknowable and science is steering us towards the idea that reality is unknowable completely because of human short-comings.

 

The human short-comings is that we only know what we only know and nothing more. The furthest we can reach in our knowledge is the complete understanding of our own individual realities. But we are hampered in reaching that complete understanding because of our short-comings.

 

I couldn't find a relevant gif on mental gymnastics.

 

You guys are just mad because you are realizing that religion is not hogwash. You guys just subscribe to a different kind of reasoning, which is the scientific reasoning. You guys are too xenophobic towards another type of reasoning. You guys are bigots. You guys are too close-minded when it comes to your precious little scientific reasoning.

 

I just don't agree with what you're saying.

Let's assume you're right and a God exists. Why should I worship it? He must be a bit of an asshole.

 

I'm not saying that I believe in God, either. I'm just trying to get the point across that there are two methods of reasoning or more and just because you are an adherent of one doesn't mean the other one isn't valid.

 

To say that science is falsifiable isn’t accurate though, yes, some people try to do that, but it quickly gets debunked, because it’s easy to delve into things and find errors - there would have to be a global conspiracy

For instance, there are a few scientists who don’t support global warming as real, but they’re not climate scientists, and they don’t have any evidence to support them. All the evidence (mountains and mountains of it) show global temperatures rising at an unnatural rate.

You don’t seem to account for science being the act of trying to disprove things - science starts with a supposition, say, a = b

So we look at a and b, and notice a is round, b is an oval. We weigh the two, and a weighs 14 grams, and b weighs 72 grams.

At this point, we know a =\= b and the theory is debunked, a does not equal b at all.

It can get simpler or more complicated, but it’s about proving things wrong. After someone and 1000 other people try to prove something wrong and can’t, then we have a theory about something being a fact. Theory, in science, means after extensive testing and trying, nobody can prove something wrong, so it’s accepted as factual information.

Religion has numerous beliefs that are not supported by facts, and more that aren’t even vaguely realistic.

Impossible? We don’t know enough about the universe to say impossible, but extremely improbable. Even moreso when they discovered the part of the brain responsible for religion, which allows humans to believe unbelievable things as a coping mechanism for our inability to know things.

 

I guarantee you that she is laughing her ass off on the other side of her computer screen, trolling us all.

 

Everything has the possibility of being disproved. One is absolute space and absolute time. These were taken as facts, or as factual as you can get. Einstein disproved those. And no these theories do not become facts because they all are falsifiable.

 

There are many methods to arriving at what a person thinks reality is, including just believing what sounds good. Using a scientific method is just one of them.

 

But if you are not that educated, say you have a BA only, then you have to assume that what you are told about reality by science such as evolution and that we live in a galaxy in a universe of galaxies is true. You just believe it by faith.

 

The other thing is that perception is such that it virtually becomes reality. If you believe in God, then for you, God exists. If you believe, as Parmenides claims, that we are just immobile and that all motion and change are just an illusion, then for you, that's reality.

 

If you subscribe to scientific reasoning as the only way to determine what is real in your world, then only what science discovers will be your perception of reality.

 

You might be laughing, but science is indeed fallible - thing is, it’s open and ongoing. So many people are always trying to prove things wrong, that false information gets weeded out quickly.

New knowledge changes perception, but what we do know via science is accurate. Falsified information gets caught quickly because things require verification, over and over and over again.

 

You guys are just repeating things over and over, man, lol. I already understand it and showed that I understand it. I just think you guys are ignoring what I'm saying, lol. Are you guys trolling?

 

You claimed it was easy to falsify, which is inaccurate

 

I never said that. I said that they are falsifiable, not that they are easy to, at least the long-lasting theories, anyways.

 

Falsified science gets caught quickly, scientists are super picky about peer review. The donut that published the study about vaccines causing autism for example, peers realized almost immediately and he’s no longer allowed to publish studies - basically barred from practicing as a scientist

 

All scientific theories are falsifiable. They never take anything that isn't.

 

Anyone who wants to get it can get access to the raw data, nothing falsified would last, that would require an incomprehensible level of conspiracy.