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  1. djfly

    djfly Smiter of Spam

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    ... who tends to evaluate people based on their value to mankind?

    The photographer who took the picture of Kim's ass has more value than Kim (Kardashian, obviously, ffs).
    The line worker who built the camera has similar value than the guy holding it, depending on the quality of the photo.
    The engineer who designed it has more value than one or both, depending on the quality of camera.
    etc...

    Farmer has more value than the grocery store teller
    Mechanic has more value than the car salesman
    etc...

    Thoughts?
     
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    There are certain points in time when everything reaches critical points of it's highest value throughout it's life span as an object I wouldn't say either way that the origination of anything is it's most valuable based upon who created it or works with it
     
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    Thanks for the response, but this isn't my "critical point".
    This is my "way of thinking".
     
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    Your saying based upon your thought process that your intellect is more accurate than actual critical points in time where the value of the highest reasoning is based. Which seems non logical due to the fact, the calculation would dictate the highest most accurate factoid of slated value to each person or objects worth over the greater good.
     
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    The only difference I could find in the reasoning behind this is either your judgement calls are accurate without having to reason to anything using exact knowns. Or somehow your self worth is worth more than using particulars of the known to generate a more biased value to yourself
     
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    Actually Cibernaut, if you're going to use the word "logic", you must first make fucking sense.

    I think that "being able to do pretty makeup" has less value as a skill than "able to make warm clothing"
    Extend to the most basic skillsets useful for human survival. For those too stupid to understand the use of an example, please don't reply.

    To go all @Cib3rNaut (to help some out), I'll put it this way:
    More basic combinable skills person has more value can be offered to alien overlords
     
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    Unless of course many of the most basic skills being used on everything are just repetitious and void of any context, saying the status quo of all being on a level playing field most the populous would have at least the skills for basic survival to have gotten this far in life. So where does ones combined traits over the years give them any advantage when in completely difference situations they could have learned totally opposite outcomes. It is really having the time it takes to learn the valuable skills that is more effective then the most basic of skill sets.
     
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    I think all humans begin with equal potential of value and it changes over the course of a life time :) So I agree that some people would be more valuable than others but I also think people can change. One person with no current value has the potential to out value another person in due time. So placing evaluations on people for their current value doesn't make sense when everyone has the potential to change value.
     
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    Great @Cib3rNaut
    Thanks Captain Verbose.

    How about you start focusing on the value of your words instead of the count of them.
    ...it would be small, but a start nonetheless.
     
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    LOL. I couldn't get past "born equal". **** that.
     
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    Unless nothing really matters and the overall change would be processed from the individuals reality that is outwardly seen by all others. In that duality it would state that all people that appear to be doing the most work are the most valuable. Instead of incredible amounts of work being done by the unseen.
     
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    too many fucking pronouns to have context to anything.
    sorry, again... =/
     
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    I guess I should clarify that I am the one assigning value, so I get to say that a person being born in any country in the world has equal potential of adding value to the world? Because they do. Not everyone gets a fair start because other people are assholes and oppressors but in my mind any one of those people could grow up to become the most valuable.
     
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    I posted a thread in AS, @Wrecky the AS she is, makes it about her.

    Edit: Wanna answer the topic? Or do you wanna go hand-to-hand in a battle of wits? Sit down.
     
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    I disagree, Most the populated places around the world itself do not have equality. Canada and America are close to first world countries, so the opportunity does exist to match or exceed the equalized status that communities put into place. Other existences are not so, and the bare minimum that is acceptable to live on isn't looked at twice
     
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    If you looked into and investigated Kim Kardashian, it was most likely an outside source that made her famous whether it be an extremely rich patron of pornographic material or otherwise. Is there higher value in either of those two topics, most likely not. The experience everyone has seen over the years, was that worth more than either of them, Possibly.

    The man who builds the camera or the photographer itself. Is art more valuable then machinery and science, that would all depend on if the art was more valuable than all cameras the one man has built in entirety. Did the man build every singular function of the camera from the limited blueprints through the fully working design. Did he build the tools to manufacture the camera. Did he design the work space and math needed to make the camera function properly. All are vital to the calculation of value placed upon the experience both the man and also the total usage of said functioning camera itself would have.

    One person is not more valuable then the next based upon theoretical and theatrical means provided by the world itself. The only value one person has is their self value, to keep going and fight the good fight. If you look around at society you cannot judge others by means of the limited work they do, everything is never what it seems. Which is why I stated in the original posting that it has to be driven off a exact calculation for your question to be rightfully measured. otherwise where is the value in asking the weight of the question itself.
     
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    Holy shit, you're right.
    I did fail. There is a wisecrack there.

    Honestly, 25 internet points.
    I got trolled.
     
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    I understand the concept of your question and rightfully so, each person most often does take it upon themselves to equalize out the value of each based upon their own personal mantras and friendships to one another. Although in the unforeseen total of all economics and social based allusions the value given to every moment of time would be equated with the greater good to that person or item being shown. Example one person may only serve as being valued for a short amount of time at great things, and then move on to something more meaningfully to their self worth. Then the question becomes what is more valuable to others or to themselves.
     
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    Lollll
    You asked for thoughts and left it open ended. :) In my world cats with 3 legs are the first ones to be adopted and all humans are born blank slates to the value of zero. I think it doesn't make sense to assign value based on any one opinion.. but again, you asked for thoughts :p
     

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