Do you think that we are boxed-in in our thinking?

Discussion in 'Politics and Debate' started by mcpon14, Jan 21, 2018.

  1. mcpon14

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    Where reality is static or is ever-changing and that motion is real?
     
  2. sharkbait.

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    Yeah plenty of people allow themselves to become boxed in in their thinking. It's a part of the human condition I think.
     
  3. mcpon14

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    Do you think that motion and change is real?
     
  4. .:Batman:.

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    Mushrooms will open your mind right up
     
  5. mcpon14

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    So will Ayahuasca, which I think is purportedly the best. :)
     
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  6. MarkFL

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    Yes, I think objects move through space, and that we live in a dynamic universe. :)
     
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  7. mcpon14

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    Do you know who partly started the idea among the Greeks to think about motion and change? Parmenides. He claimed that we are in a static state and that all change and motion was just an illusion because our senses deceive us. This partly led to empiricism and the science of motion and the idea of a vacuum and the Greek idea of elemental substances, lol. :)
     
  8. MarkFL

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    I enjoy thought experiments...Einstein had some good ones too. :)
     
  9. mcpon14

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    What I meant by boxed in is that do you think that we see the world in terms of change and motion, exclusively?
     
  10. .:Batman:.

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    Right after you puke and shit yourself
    I’ve heard good things about it.
     
  11. mcpon14

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    I read that you have to prepare yourself for it weeks in advance, if you are a beginner. :)
     
  12. MarkFL

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    Time provides a dimension in which events can unfold, and events are change, so I do think we largely view the universe as a large closed dynamical system. But, I think there's more to it than that...for example number theorists spend a great deal of time studying prime numbers, and they and their properties are static.
     
  13. mcpon14

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    Would you be able to see the universe outside of the box of change and motion?
     
  14. MarkFL

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    What does that even mean really?
     
  15. mcpon14

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    I can't either, lol. :)
     
  16. MarkFL

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    I was more after an explanation of what you meant. :)
     
  17. mcpon14

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    It is kind of hard to put into words what I meant because I'm boxed in, too. :) I can't imagine reality as anything other than change and motion. :)
     
  18. MarkFL

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    It sounds like trying to imagine a reality without time. :)
     
  19. mcpon14

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    Have you heard of the theory that time doesn't exist but only slices of moments? :)
     
  20. MarkFL

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    Sort of like a movie where static images simulate motion by our persistence of vision? Not really, but I have heard it said that clocks measure entropy, rather than the passage of time.
     

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