handbanana has been bullying me on the other site

Definitely interested.

I actually really like the way he’s portrayed in the TV series running now, just a pissed off kid mad at his dad

 

Well, I think that Satan would be truthful to humans and say would you like a world that is more peaceful and alleviated of much of the things that causes suffering around the world or would you like to worship an authoritarian God just to stroke his ego?

 

Considering as the story goes he was the most beautiful and powerful angel, and he wound up in hell for defying his dad

Angels were not given the gift of free will after all, so expressing such a trait was undesirable

 

Lucifer or Satan was actually God's helper. That is why God allowed Lucifer to persuade him to do bad things to Job. During the Babylonian exile, the idea of Satan as an opposing evil force to God virtually came about because of the influence of Zoroastrianism.

 

Pretty sure Lucifer is straight up the god Loki from Norse mythology. If you look at the Angels vs. The Norse Pantheon, they simply renamed the gods that were not all powerful beings to angels and gave Odin a promotion to the omnipresent, omniscient Jehovah

 

But when did they have significant contact with the people that believed in Norse mythology?

 

And Yahweh was probably invented before Norse mythology came into existence. I mean, Abraham is supposed to have lived around 2000 BC.

 

During the Babylonian exile, the Persians conquered the Babylonians and came in contact with the Jews living there. The Persians were largely Zoroastrians and the idea of Satan of today is basically copying the main Zoroastrian god of evil.

 

And the Bible even calls Cyrus, the Persian conqueror, a Messiah.

 

satan is a social outcast who couldnt hack it
feelings are for humans.

 

The timelines are a little sketchy, but weren’t the Norse and Greek Gods essentially the same, different names, but similar foundations, Thor/Hercules and so forth

 

I don't know. But according to a certain professor named Jorjani, a Persian, he said that the Greek titans that the Olympian gods defeated were essentially the Zoroastrian pantheon.

 

The original Indo-European civilization or culture spread to India and espoused what is now termed Hinduism. Others became the Mycenean Greeks and others became the Persians.

 

What I'm saying is that those 3 civilizations are connected.

 

Everything is connected, the entire judeo christian religion has parallels to preceding mythology, and which I imagine was introduced over time to make it similar enough that followers of other faiths would be less resistant to conversion, having Christmas in the place of Yule, despite the timing not matching for example - easier to incorporate celebrations of faith that already exist, even if they don’t quite fit.

 

^ Or that there are economic and social incentives and later political incentives to enter the Church. Or the idea of a Heaven to enter after death can placate peasants with the hardships of being a peasant.

 

I think a strong argument, even though it is just speculation, of why Constantine converted to Christianity was that many of his soldiers subscribed to a religion that stemmed from a rival empire.

 

And Constantine didn't seem to really believe in Christianity as the truth about the universe because he was part of the group that helped determine what Christians believed in.

 

Idk how a thread about me "bullying" someone turned into a religious debate but you guys are weird af.

And this is coming from me.

 

I hijacked it because I didn't like the title, lol.