The religious perspective. Wanna have this discussion?

But the observer effect can show that reality is independent of the observer. When an electron is not looked upon, it could be in any position within that area which is reality. When the observer observes it, then it is in a specific place.

 

Slightly wrong, it is instead in every position. Thus reality is not independent of the observer.

 

So that's reality, then, where the electron is in every position and however it extends to neutrons and protons. Therefore, reality is independent of the observer.

 

Yeah...
You see, proton and neutron aren't elementary particles.

 

Quarks and neutrinos, then, or however down they go. Strings? Vibrations?

 

Lets frame this in a different way.

Think of the universe as wave (that's why an electron can be everywhere at the same time), materialization is the result of observation. That's why the universe is dependent on the observer. It requires interaction to materialize.

 

Then whatever is un-materialized is reality.

 

Mmmkay.

 

The electron is in every position when the observer isn't looking. What is that, then, lol?

 

Nothing (a pun on Lawrence Krauss' book - A Universe from Nothing).

You see, the universe arise from nothing because of interaction (nothingness in unstable). It doesn't mean that an observation must be done by a conscious being. It just mean that interaction caused the wave function to collapse and thus materializing a universe.

Think of it this way; wave is not something.

 

Do you believe in the Big Bang theory?

 

Sure.

 

Was there an observer to observe the big bang and the subsequent expansion?

 

None, the instability is innate.

 

Isn't the expansion, reality?

 

Sure.

 

The universe would exist with or without humanity dude. It doesn't depend on us in order to exist. SMH

 

So, they were trying to write a historically inaccurate, unverifiable "biography" of Jesus?

 

No, they were not knowingly trying to write something that they knew was false. It wasn't in their realm of consciousness whether what they were writing is historically verifiable or not.