What religious beliefs do you hold?

Discussion in 'Politics and Debate' started by Lucian Hodoboc, Mar 15, 2018.

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What are your religious beliefs?

  1. Christian

    26.7%
  2. Muslim

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Jew

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Buddhist

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Hindu

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    0.0%
  6. Shinto

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Agnostic

    20.0%
  8. Atheist

    46.7%
  9. Something else

    6.7%
  1. mcpon14

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    It is actually an emoji for a "rival" forum, lol. :rofl:
     
  2. Wrecky

    Wrecky Valkyrie

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    You also can't quote posts with the offending words :nuts: Stop making me mod stuff, I'm trying to catch up on my notifications
     
  3. Karlijn

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    I know. I was the first to find a trick so I could still type that name of evil
     
  4. mcpon14

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    I got spanked on my left cheek by Wrecky, so I'll just say that you are a cool chick. :cry:
     
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  5. PriestoftheHigh

    PriestoftheHigh The Joe Shogun chopslash

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    Is hip hop just a euphemism for a new religion?
     
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    eleswhur Succubus Whore

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    I can't fathom believing in supernatural entities in 2018
     
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  7. mcpon14

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    Not all religions are worships of a supernatural deity. :) Like Buddhism, originally. :)
     
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    And I think that modern society is moving towards idol-worship and it is basically the same thing whether the thing being worshiped is super-natural in nature or not.
     
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  9. Lucian Hodoboc

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    I can't fathom existing within an atheistic framework, considering that mathematics proves atheism to be irrational.
     
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  10. Karlijn

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    1+1=2, therefore god exists? :twitch:
     
  11. Gus

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    Pfft. You posted that disclaimer because you know these types of threads are drama magnets and I’ll bet you secretly want to see some drama. :P
     
  12. Lucian Hodoboc

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    It is mathematically easily provable that atheism is irrational:

    - if God does not exist, then there is no afterlife (most atheists agree with this statement)
    - since you assume that after death there will be eternal nothingness (just like before we were born), then you can deduce that after death there will be no suffering at all. (you don't recall having suffered before you were born, right?)
    - our current existence contains a certain amount of suffering (varying from person to person, but we can agree that most people experience a large amount of suffering over the years, especially as they grow older)
    - the very fact that a being is able to understand that they could choose a complete absence of suffering (by killing themselves), but instead choose to experience some amount of suffering (by desiring to remain alive) for the sole purpose of arbitrarily-chosen temporary goals that are meaningless in the context of eternal oblivion, makes said being irrational
    - you might say that the moments of happiness achievable in this life compensate for the suffering, but let's be honest, the majority of people's lives are not made out of happy moments. We can estimate that more than 50% of a human's life is made out of unpleasant moments (work, illnesses, emotional and physical pain, anxieties, loss of loved ones etc.)
    - the fact that over 50% of a humans lifespan is suffering means that a human's life still contains more suffering than the amount of suffering that eternal nothingness offers
    - considering all the above, the choice of remaining alive as an atheist irrational
     
  13. Karlijn

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    There is so much wrong with this post
     
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  14. Squire72

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    We are born, we suffer, experience joy, experience love, experience pain, then we die. When we die our components rejoin the universe, and parts of us go to new places and do new things - perhaps even become a part of a new life.

    Life is an experience, worth living even without an afterlife
     
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  15. Lucian Hodoboc

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    It's quite interesting when atheists, aware that they've been proven wrong by science, the very thing that they cling on to, resort to arguments from emotion, the very things that they condemn religious people for using.

    Disprove the demonstration I presented above. Please highlight any logical flaws that you may find in it. Present factual scientific evidence that supports the idea that choosing meaningless pain instead of meaningless lack of existence is rational.
     
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    On the contrary, science has done no more to prove the existence of a deity than it has to prove the existence of a soul. Things that aren’t real cannot be proven
     
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    Well, from what I read, scientists are getting less and less hopeful (if they were hopeful at all to begin with) that a soul or a deity exists because they have yet to find a spirit particle.
     
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    I think the first verifiable deity will become real when they lose control of a global AI and Skynet takes over
     
  20. Nobita

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    I do believe in Jesus. But more importantly we must also have faith. without faith we do nothing with the beliefs.
     

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