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What religious beliefs do you hold?

Discussion in 'Politics and Debate' started by Lucian Hodoboc, Mar 15, 2018.

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What are your religious beliefs?

  1. Christian

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  2. Muslim

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  3. Jew

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  4. Buddhist

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  5. Hindu

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  6. Shinto

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  7. Agnostic

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  8. Atheist

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  9. Something else

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  1. Squire72

    Squire72 Moberator

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    That’s a fallacious assumption. You can believe in things that we have reproducible evidence for without faith. Believing in false notions doesn’t make us stronger or closer, it leads us to ignore truths and do damage to things because of those false notions.

    The saying “god helps those who helps themselves” is a nice way of saying your god does nothing (because your god doesn’t exist), and if you do the same, you will fail.
     
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    I'm an atheist, but I lean towards agnostic.
     
  3. Nobita

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    Jesus and His word are one
    Jesus and His word are one. If I believe in Jesus mean I believe in His word. If I believe Jesus can heal then I must also have faith in Him. that is how my faith work.
     
  4. Squire72

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    Faith in things that don’t exist is meaningless. I have faith the stay puft marshmallow man will eat all the bad people one day and make the world a better place

    Which logically makes just as much sense as your faith. More perhaps, because ghostbusters was amazing
     
  5. Nobita

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    for me faith is heavenly currency to buy heavenly resource. I really dont know how to life without faith.
     
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  6. Squire72

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    I like the world we live in and the people in it. If I had to live my life for something I don’t even believe is real I’d be sad and sorry about being here.

    Life is what you make it. I live it like I don’t want or expect more than what’s given me already - being wrapped up in what happens later means ignoring what now means - and now means everything
     
  7. Nobita

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    well I am always accept the different of perception. for myself faith is the tool I use battling again poverty, sickness, persecution, and my rebellious nature in life. I believe Jesus is real because I saw alot of miracle from Jesus, He is still changing life, building nation, and inspire people to live in the word of God today.
     
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    Also the direct cause of millions of deaths in his name, the blood on his hands is immense for inspiring evil in men
     
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  9. Nobita

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    What you believe is what direct you right? then the way atheism is the way of your life. I presume you dont know much about Jesus that much.
     
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    Squire72 Moberator

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    I know lots, he was a chill Jewish carpenter who was executed for sedition by the Roman Empire. Pretty sure most stories about him are fictional, but the stories about him inspired the crusades, and mass murder on a terrifying scale
     
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    mcpon14 Bleeds Nexopia

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    I think that you should blame Constantine more for wars done on the political level. And Paul, because without him, what happened to Jesus and Jesus' career might not have gotten off of the ground.
     
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    Still, it was all done in his name. I’m sure the man would have been horrified at what was done that people attribute as being inspired by him
     
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    If a serial killer in the future killed in your name, are to blame for that? Or the dogs that supposedly told Son of Sam to kill, is that dog or those dogs to be blamed for that?
     
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    Of course not, which is why he’d be horrified. Terrible people using him as an excuse to kill people?

    Pretty sure Jesus would consider 99% of so called Christians useless hypocrites
     
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  16. Isadoorian | Tristan

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    I'm a Agnostic Athiest; I'm what I like to call a "Schrodinger's Athiest": I both do and don't believe there's a higher Power/Being; is it kinda contradicting? Sure. Do I care? No, I'm a Honey Badger in that regard
     
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    if what about Jesus is fictional the man like Paul would not continue telling about salvation to the world until his last day on earth and by the time of persecution Paul would likely to run away because what the point of doing that? its because Paul was called by God to do the work so there are nothing can stop him.
     
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    No one is questioning if Jesus, or Paul, actually existed. The problem is with what they really were and did. There are no documents or whatever confirming that a man known as Yeshua bar Yehosef or Yeshua Ha Mashiach or Iēsus Nazarēnus, Rēx Iūdaeōrum was ever sentenced to death and crusified, other than the bible and writings from people who base their work on the bible. Even if that really happened, it still doesn't prove that Jesus was really the son of god (whatever that means), just that he believed in something so strongly, that he apparently thought it was worth dying for, but so do suicide bombers. there is also no prove that Paul was persecuted. He just sort of disappears from the bible, and he is never mentioned in any source other then, again, the bible or writing from other people basing their works on the bible. there isn't even any prove (not even in the bible) that Paul ever went to Rome.
     
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    gnostic christian / jewish matrix
     
  20. Lucian Hodoboc

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    I beg to differ: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sources_for_the_historicity_of_Jesus
     

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